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migrating from Joomla 2.5 to 3+ and Colourshift (original)

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Hi guys i have to upgrade a site based on colourshift (using joomla 2.5) to joomla 3 because my host has started using PHP v7 and its causing errors with the database.
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is the original colourshift compatible with Joomla 3 ? so that i could upgrade to joomla 3 without a problem? (Ive updated other components)
Are the zen grid framework v2.3.1 and zen tools v1.10.6 compatible with 3+ or would i have to update them first?
if the previous questions arnt possible can i used colourshift 2 wih the exisiting database and content?
many thanks in advance
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Hi Glenn,

Id strongly suggest migrating the template to the newest version

bambootheme.com/showcase/sep16/

this was released last year

This uses the zen grid 5 framework as well as a newer version of zentools called zentools2

You could keep using zentools v1 but you would need to use the latest version of that to be compatible with php7

The template version you have is not compatible with joomla 3

The errors I'd expect to see would be fatal php errors coming from both template and zentools
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"if the previous questions arnt possible can i used colourshift 2 wih the exisiting database and content?"

You may run into problems with the database collation but this is a Joomla issue rather than template or extension

I'd strongly suggest taking a copy of the site and migrating that version of the site
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What I would also suggest is if possible moving to php 5.6 first rather than php7

You could well find that extensions are compatible with the latest Joomla 3 version = 3.8.2 but are not compatible with php7

Once you have the site migrated and stable on 5.6 I would then try moving to php7
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Moving on to content

The standard Joomla and zentools content should be fine once everything is updated

You will have to move stuff around position wise as position names will be different
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If you need clarification on any of above please ask

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Ive no problems doing this Paul, especially if its going to be easier, Ive been messing with this for nearly 2 weeks now updating various components etc and i am running into php errors etc
if i do upgrade woukld this be joomla 4 compatable or am I going to run into the same problems ?
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Ive already migrated the site (setup on wamp locally so the original is untouched) once ive updated the components etc what else would need to be done ??
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Im working on that basis on my local wamp setup. do you mean with the new template version ?
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no problem doing that the site needs updating a little anyways ..
sorry for so many questions but as I mentioned Ive spent 2 weeks trying to sort this, got so far and then hit the proverbial brick wall lol
many thanks for all your help and advice Paul.
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Using the existing framework (zgfv2) you have will get php errors

Using zentools 1.14.1 is php7 compatible so that will work without having to create new modules

Regarding Joomla4 it is still up in the air as I understand it
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With a migration you would remove the extensions that are not compatible with the new Joomla version

so this would be components, templates, plugins and modules

You'd also disable the remember me plugin
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What php errors are you getting?

a json error is quite common

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These videos might help

www.siteground.com/tutorials/joomla-video/upgrade-introduction/
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Ok Paul, so from what i understand, I
update, remove or disable components etc (already done actually)
save the updated database,
buy the colourshift 2 template, install it on my local wamp server,
test the installation and rectify any problems with the layout etc on PHP v5+
then test it on PHP 7+
then upload to my main host, is that correct?
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With a migration you would remove the extensions that are not compatible with the new Joomla version

so this would be components, templates, plugins and modules

You'd also disable the remember me plugin

what does the remember me plugin do exactly and why would i need to delete it?
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Can't entirely remember

Please don't delete it just disable it in plugin manager

I know it causes problems with the migration process - It has been a while since I migrated a J2.5 and the update process was much improved with the most recent update

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paulus103 wrote:
Can't entirely remember

Please don't delete it just disable it in plugin manager

I know it causes problems with the migration process - It has been a while since I migrated a J2.5 and the update process was much improved with the most recent update

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np Paul, I've disabled it earlier anyways, but thanks for the heads up.
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Are you still having problems with the migration?

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Are you still having problems with the migration?

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well ive updated, disabled or removed items as required. Just need to talk to my customer as regards the update so i'll let you know paul.
So do i install the newer template and then update joomla to version 3?
(btw i read somewhere that when updating you have to go to 3.51 first, is that correct?)
many thanks for all your help and advice though
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